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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 15, 2007 12:06:44 GMT -5
Just wanted to let y'all know that the lane condition graph and information is now up on the USBC website... Just click on the link to the left that says "Lane Condition".
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Post by WineUdotKing on Feb 15, 2007 12:25:19 GMT -5
Just wanted to let y'all know that the lane condition graph and information is now up on the USBC website... Just click on the link to the left that says "Lane Condition". That's been a sore subject on the bowl.com forum. Alot of people don't think that info should be on there because it will give some bowlers an advantage over others. The people who work at bowling centers and can oil their lanes how they want to will be able to put out the USBC Tournament shot and practice on it before going to the tournament which gives them an unfair advantage over people who don't have that opportunity. |
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 15, 2007 12:36:19 GMT -5
Just wanted to let y'all know that the lane condition graph and information is now up on the USBC website... Just click on the link to the left that says "Lane Condition". That's been a sore subject on the bowl.com forum. Alot of people don't think that info should be on there because it will give some bowlers an advantage over others. The people who work at bowling centers and can oil their lanes how they want to will be able to put out the USBC Tournament shot and practice on it before going to the tournament which gives them an unfair advantage over people who don't have that opportunity. I tend to agree with you wine. Also, it gives those who bowl later in the Tourn. a little advantage getting some feed back on the lane condition over those that go early as well. But that advantage doesn't have much to do with the conditions being posted. But duplicating everything else such as the exact lane surface, oil and type of machine laying the shot at these other houses to practice on, could give people a false read or different reaction than what they are expecting and could ultimately end up hurting them..... Personally, I tend to agree with you, I feel it shouldn't be posted either....JMO.... |
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 15, 2007 12:45:56 GMT -5
All the knowledge of lane conditions and tournament shot feedback do not make the shots and shooting at spares any easier.
The truly talented bowlers will adapt and continue to win this tournament every year.
The average league bowler that has never learned shot making and only knows how to bowl on walled up shots will eventually get tired of going and averaging 150-160 and the entries to this tournament willl lag again at some point.
Unless they return the overall integrity to the sport... instead of the entertainment aspects of the game...
Mark my words... these "Main Event" gamerooms with 24 hour rock n bowl bowling and lane rental by the hour pricing will be the eventual ruination of organized league bowling. As a rsult I predict the annual decline of membership numbers will continue to happen every year.
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 15, 2007 12:52:48 GMT -5
All the knowledge of lane conditions and tournament shot feedback do not make the shots and shooting at spares any easier. The truly talented bowlers will adapt and continue to win this tournament every year. The average league bowler that has never learned shot making and only knows how to bowl on walled up shots will eventually get tired of going and averaging 150-160 and the entries to this tournament willl lag again at some point. Unless they return the overall integrity to the sport... instead of the entertainment aspects of the game... Mark my words... these "Main Event" gamerooms with 24 hour rock n bowl bowling and lane rental by the hour pricing will be the eventual ruination of organized league bowling. As a rsult I predict the annual decline of membership numbers will continue to happen every year. You make some valid point PBA as well....but I think as long as USBC has this event at good vacation hot spots, their entries may stay good longer than what we may see in league play participation....JMO |
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 5, 2007 12:31:50 GMT -5
From reading on the USBC Tourn. forum and by what type of bowlers and what balls are being thrown that are doing well. It appears that the lanes are pretty tight this year. Seems that many are able to throw dull monster hooking balls for Team and Doubles with some going to polished stuff for Singles depending on what D & S squads you got and how you throw the ball. Right now the top two in All-Events are no thumbers that twist the crap out of the ball..... The leader boards are not updated yet but if you'll read the article on Mike Miller who is now leading All-Events, it tells you he's in the lead, the previous leader was a no thumber as well....
Looks like I'll have to buy a couple of hooking monsters before I go this year.... The shot seems to be inside and tight, anything outside of 10 will not come back.....from what I'm reading.
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Post by 854high on Mar 5, 2007 17:23:01 GMT -5
It would be nice if one of the houses here would put down the shot and let us practice on it.
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 5, 2007 17:31:43 GMT -5
It would be nice if one of the houses here would put down the shot and let us practice on it. It would be nice but I don't know if they could duplicate the shot... and even if they did.... Nationals is synthetic and they are brand new this year. Arm I and Arm II are wood with very bad heads and burnt up tracks...... Our equipment would not react the same and would breakdown differently than what you will see at Nationals....... It could cause great problems if what you practice on, thinking you'll see the same thing at Nationals, and come to find out, it's totally different....... I have found the best practice for Nationals is just moving in to 4th or 5th arrow on a fresh shot here at home, throw a tame ball. Stay away from the bump outside and stay in the oil. If you make a 2 board mistake right, you'll miss the head pin or barely hit it, and if you pull it, it's in the nose...... The lanes are very slick this year, I plan on trying first, hitting 15 to 16th board at the arrows and only get it out to around 12 down the lane with a hooking ball and see what happens and adjust from there.....JMO.... |
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Post by 854high on May 29, 2007 8:18:40 GMT -5
national week finally here i leave on friday i will give a report what i think the lanes were like when i get back.Spin to win bowled this weekend there scores are up if you all want to take a look.
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Post by MrPerfect on May 29, 2007 8:57:30 GMT -5
national week finally here i leave on friday i will give a report what i think the lanes were like when i get back.Spin to win bowled this weekend there scores are up if you all want to take a look. Looks like Jimbo and Jeremy did pretty good. Jimmy did ok, better than last year but he hurt his knee last year during the 2nd game of Team event that caused that.... I'm sure he feels he could have done better... I look forward to getting their report on the shot this week. |
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Post by johndoe on May 29, 2007 12:16:14 GMT -5
With all of your vast knowledge Perfect I would have guessed that you would have noticed that the pattern this year is pretty much the same pattern from last year with the differences being that this years pattern is 1 foot longer and has more volume than last year. So yes they are playing tighter but maybe it could be that your slipping or maybe its time for those glasses everyone keeps saying you need.
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Post by wannabearightie on May 29, 2007 12:34:05 GMT -5
funny johndis, funny.
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Post by SoMuchHookUCanFish on May 31, 2007 13:12:01 GMT -5
I had a good shot all the squads...
the team squad I had a little room to miss right but left was hooking.. I was standing 20 and trying to hit the inside of the outside marker down the lane if I hit that I smashed the pocket. If u miss too far right its 3 you hope... never did that though... Shot 192+178+227=597 in team started the 1st and 3rd game /xxxx... had a pocket 7-10 and a 4-9 one game but I opened in the 10th the 1st 2 games
The next night doubles I have a good shot Real consistant but missed a few easy spares as was the theme for the whole tournament for me... I started in the same spot as team but the 3rd game I moved in and opened up the lane a little bit... I was standing 25 and hitting 18 @ the arrows gave me a pretty good look... shot 210+200+221=631
singles we moved one pair to the right and there just happened to be one couple on the pair... THEY WERE SLICK! moved about 7 right and moved my mark 3 so I was standing 18 and trying to hit 15 and guide it down to the outside marker board whichever came first... anyways found the shot and finished with 198+181+212=591
Overall the shot was good approaches were good never stuck or slid except when I moved left to shoot a 3-6-9-10... I was very consistant and accurate which is odd I didnt miss much just missed some easy spares that cost me a lot but o well I will hopefully do better next year... my last 2 years I shot 1845+1819=3664/18=203.55 is my lifetime average @ nationals so i have a better start than clark did which means im better than him b/c I am referring to nationals... lol
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Post by MrPerfect on May 31, 2007 14:51:00 GMT -5
I had a good shot all the squads... the team squad I had a little room to miss right but left was hooking.. I was standing 20 and trying to hit the inside of the outside marker down the lane if I hit that I smashed the pocket. If u miss too far right its 3 you hope... never did that though... Shot 192+178+227=597 in team started the 1st and 3rd game /xxxx... had a pocket 7-10 and a 4-9 one game but I opened in the 10th the 1st 2 games The next night doubles I have a good shot Real consistant but missed a few easy spares as was the theme for the whole tournament for me... I started in the same spot as team but the 3rd game I moved in and opened up the lane a little bit... I was standing 25 and hitting 18 @ the arrows gave me a pretty good look... shot 210+200+221=631 singles we moved one pair to the right and there just happened to be one couple on the pair... THEY WERE SLICK! moved about 7 right and moved my mark 3 so I was standing 18 and trying to hit 15 and guide it down to the outside marker board whichever came first... anyways found the shot and finished with 198+181+212=591 Overall the shot was good approaches were good never stuck or slid except when I moved left to shoot a 3-6-9-10... I was very consistant and accurate which is odd I didnt miss much just missed some easy spares that cost me a lot but o well I will hopefully do better next year... my last 2 years I shot 1845+1819=3664/18=203.55 is my lifetime average @ nationals so i have a better start than clark did which means im better than him b/c I am referring to nationals... lol Good bowling Jeremy and yes, your first two years at Nationals were a lot better than mine..... And you are better than I was at 20 years of age than I was at age 20. And I'm sure you will be better than me one day "soon" if your body holds up to the style of game you throw... I just have more experience than you and a better mental game than you right now, that's making the difference in the few pins on avg. I have over you over the long haul. I'm sure your mental game and experience will develope more as the years go by.... I only had a 1793 last year and I'll have to shoot 1871 this year to tie you for these last two years combined.... |
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Post by MrPerfect on Jun 11, 2007 17:04:31 GMT -5
Congrats go out to Roger Banks for a 1935 All-Events at Nationals in Reno. He shot 602 in Team, 678 in Doubles and 655 in Singles starting off with a 289 game in Singles. He had a possible 290 if he would have struck on the fill ball..... That's some stout bowling at Nationals... Great bowling Roger... I'll be leaving Friday to go up and give it a try myself..... we bowl Sunday and Monday next week...
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