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Post by PBAHoFer on Jun 17, 2006 9:57:24 GMT -5
In case you forgot, this is the 2nd and 3rd 900's bowled by this jr. bowler... the 1st in November was denied because the league sanction was turned in too late... In my opinion he "got even" with USBC by bowling not 1, but 2- 900's... all 3 were pre-bowled with minimal (if any witnesses) Somehow or another, this kid rigged the scoring or the cameras or something... In my humble opinion, there is no way this kid is the first to ever have multiple 900's...
Record Maker: Mushtare's 900 Series Official Friday, June 16, 2006, 9:40pm The United States Bowling Congress has decided to recognize two 900 series bowled by Robert Mushtare of Carthage.
Mushtare becomes the first bowler ever in New York state to have a 'sanctioned' 900 series, the first youth bowler in the country to have an official 900 series and the first bowler of any age to have two series recognized as official.
These are only the 10th and 11th series the USBC has recognized.
Representatives from the Bowling Congress met with Mushtare on June 3 in Watertown to review the two series, which were both bowled on Fort Drum - one on December 3, 2005 and one on February 19 of this year.
The decision of the USBC will be announced Monday, but Mushtare and family were told of the decision Friday.
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Post by Orkocean on Jun 18, 2006 21:59:02 GMT -5
Sigh, I read about this a couple nights ago on ballreviews.com and it made me sad. I want the whole bowling community to start a new saying for now on. I hope everyone from the forums will join in. Anytime you have a ball jump out of the gutter and knock some pins down I want it to be referred to as "Pulling a Mushtare". I don't care what anyone says, I don't wont ever believe it's legit.
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Post by WineUdotKing on Jun 19, 2006 7:53:49 GMT -5
I hope they take this back. It will be a black cloud on USBC if this stands good.
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Post by WineUdotKing on Jun 19, 2006 7:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by WineUdotKing on Jul 5, 2006 15:02:20 GMT -5
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Post by WineUdotKing on Jul 11, 2006 13:46:04 GMT -5
After the first day of competition, he is sitting in a tie for 204th place after 6 games in the USBC Junior Gold Qualifying, only 245 behind 1st place. I wonder if they will let him pre-bowl his next 6 game block so he can shoot 1800.
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Post by thedoctor on Jul 11, 2006 13:47:37 GMT -5
After the first day of competition, he is sitting in a tie for 204th place after 6 games in the USBC Junior Gold Qualifying, only 245 behind 1st place. I wonder if they will let him pre-bowl his next 6 game block so he can shoot 1800. They might. He is thier golden boy. #SmlyROFL#
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Post by hit on Jul 11, 2006 14:20:13 GMT -5
Well..I finally get to add my take on the 900's....been too busy here at work to read. It is well established he bowled the 900's in pre-bowl. But I think a lot of people are upset because he played by USBC rules and get the record of the 900's etc etc. If he had done something outside the rules, or legally cheated, they never would of approved the scores. He met USBC's guide lines for scores. And USBC new that. So they could not stand a court case. So, matters not that people are ripping this kid up over it, USBC layed down the rules and he played by them. So, I am probally on the wrong side of the argument on this one guys. He will forever be in the record books. So...there I got that off my chest...who is agianst me! HE HE
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Post by PBAHoFer on Jul 11, 2006 14:51:48 GMT -5
Well..I finally get to add my take on the 900's....been too busy here at work to read. It is well established he bowled the 900's in pre-bowl. But I think a lot of people are upset because he played by USBC rules and get the record of the 900's etc etc. If he had done something outside the rules, or legally cheated, they never would of approved the scores. He met USBC's guide lines for scores. And USBC new that. So they could not stand a court case. So, matters not that people are ripping this kid up over it, USBC layed down the rules and he played by them. So, I am probally on the wrong side of the argument on this one guys. He will forever be in the record books. So...there I got that off my chest...who is agianst me! HE HE Well..I finally get to add my take on the 900's....been too busy here at work to read. It is well established he bowled the 900's in pre-bowl. But I think a lot of people are upset because he played by USBC rules and get the record of the 900's etc etc. If he had done something outside the rules, or legally cheated, they never would of approved the scores. He met USBC's guide lines for scores. And USBC new that. So they could not stand a court case. So, matters not that people are ripping this kid up over it, USBC layed down the rules and he played by them. So, I am probally on the wrong side of the argument on this one guys. He will forever be in the record books. So...there I got that off my chest...who is agianst me! HE HE Well, I think the argument I have is that the scoring unit could have been set for "7-Tap" and it shows no correction, or, if the scores are manually corrected, it shows no record on the computer of the print out. My personal take: I think he might have actually bowled the 1st 900-- the league was unsanctioned... the paperwork was not turned in by the deadline... it was denied due to that technicality... I think he conspired with the center personnel or mechanic or whomever and decided he would "get even" with the USBC and bowl not one more, but TWO more... It's implausible to consider he bowled that many in such a short span of time, and now that the bowling world is aware of him he hasn't even bowled an 800 or 300 to my knowledge... I remember years ago, HBA officials turned down a youth bowler's 300 game, because, "No 15 year old can bowl a 300 unless the lanes were "walled up". Seems like they used to turn down some women's score for the very same reason...
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Post by thedoctor on Jul 11, 2006 15:39:26 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with him shooting a 900. But 3 of them in just a few months and "ALL" pre-bowled. I saw one of the new clips like Whine attached above off of the PBA message board and saw him throw several shots. With where he was playing it would be very hard to shoot 2 300 games much less 3 of them without blowing a 9 pin. He almost did that a couple of time for the camras.
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Post by WineUdotKing on Aug 4, 2006 13:24:26 GMT -5
USBC Board adjusts rule on High Score awards
8/4/2006
By Patrick Brettingen USBC Communications
The United States Bowling Congress will no longer issue High Score awards for scores rolled during unopposed bowling sessions before or after regularly scheduled league times.
The USBC Board of Directors has adopted the interim rule change, which takes effect immediately and will be enforced for the 2006-07 season.
"Issuing USBC High Score awards for scores bowled unopposed has become a growing concern," said USBC President Michael Carroll. "USBC member delegates voted about a decade ago to allow awards for honor scores bowled without a league officer or appointed representative present. The objective of this rule change is to protect the credibility of the sport and the USBC awards program."
The following USBC High Score awards will not be offered if rolled in unopposed pre- or post-bowled sessions:
11 strikes in a row 298, 299 and 300 games 800-900 three-game series National high series National team high game National team high series Baker 300 game Merit awards The flexibility of USBC Playing Rules allows members to bowl their league sessions before or after their scheduled league times as individuals or teams, commonly referred to as "pre-bowling" or "post-bowling."
USBC will continue to recognize several accomplishments performed in unopposed pre- or post-bowling sessions with its line of "Special Achievement" awards, including game and series honors not in the High Score category. High Score awards will still be issued to teams that pre- or post-bowl their head-to-head matches.
USBC bylaws give the Board authority to amend rules subject to review by USBC delegates, who will have the opportunity to consider the issue at the next USBC Annual Meeting, scheduled for March 2007.
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 4, 2006 13:41:05 GMT -5
Just a little to late if you ask me.
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Post by notgood on Aug 4, 2006 14:17:40 GMT -5
hofer just a little insite in the theory of him conspiring with the centers employees, HIS DAD OWNS THE CENTER WHERE ALL 5 OR 6 HAVE BEEN SHOT. Did anyone else see the ESPN Outside The Lines episode This past Sunday? They did a spot about this when ESPN asked his father what the feeling was when the first 900 was denied his father replied, "I told him, Robert, to go do it again." Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't know anyone that can say, Go shot 900, and do it. Outside of this JOKER.
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Post by WineUdotKing on Aug 7, 2006 7:42:30 GMT -5
USBC Board adjusts rule on High Score awards 8/4/2006 By Patrick Brettingen USBC Communications The United States Bowling Congress will no longer issue High Score awards for scores rolled during unopposed bowling sessions before or after regularly scheduled league times. The USBC Board of Directors has adopted the interim rule change, which takes effect immediately and will be enforced for the 2006-07 season. "Issuing USBC High Score awards for scores bowled unopposed has become a growing concern," said USBC President Michael Carroll. "USBC member delegates voted about a decade ago to allow awards for honor scores bowled without a league officer or appointed representative present. The objective of this rule change is to protect the credibility of the sport and the USBC awards program." The following USBC High Score awards will not be offered if rolled in unopposed pre- or post-bowled sessions: 11 strikes in a row 298, 299 and 300 games 800-900 three-game series National high series National team high game National team high series Baker 300 game Merit awards The flexibility of USBC Playing Rules allows members to bowl their league sessions before or after their scheduled league times as individuals or teams, commonly referred to as "pre-bowling" or "post-bowling." USBC will continue to recognize several accomplishments performed in unopposed pre- or post-bowling sessions with its line of "Special Achievement" awards, including game and series honors not in the High Score category. High Score awards will still be issued to teams that pre- or post-bowl their head-to-head matches. USBC bylaws give the Board authority to amend rules subject to review by USBC delegates, who will have the opportunity to consider the issue at the next USBC Annual Meeting, scheduled for March 2007. AMF Diamond had it's league officers meeting Saturday at 4:00pm. When I mentioned this article to HBA, they thought I was crazy. After the meeting, I went into the office and pulled it up on bowl.com for them to see. They were irrate that USBC did a temp rule change without the local reps voting. I heard that this topic was a big issue at the convention this year.
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Post by PBAHoFer on Aug 7, 2006 9:14:01 GMT -5
Well, at our Board of Director's training this past Saturday (that you missed by the way.... #bash#...lol ) we discussed this topic also, and everybody seemed to be in agreement that it was the right thing to do.
Bom was glad there was BBQ sandwiches left over he had lunch available for Saturday and Sunday without leaving the house...
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