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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 13:28:37 GMT -5
I don't think running the open championship like a Latin Tournament is the answer!!! Armadilla 1 had a Latin Tournament cancel this past weekend due to lack of entries. I feel it is due to the lack of a posted prize fund!! Maybe if the GPUSBCA would put last years prize fund on the entry form the bowlers would have an Idea on how much money that they could be bowling for. Since the open championship is only once a year the money is long forgotten from the previous year. Maybe more teams would be formed if bowlers had an idea of where the money was last year. Just an Idea.............. That's a great idea... I had not thought of that....
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 14:01:27 GMT -5
I don't think running the open championship like a Latin Tournament is the answer!!! Armadilla 1 had a Latin Tournament cancel this past weekend due to lack of entries. I feel it is due to the lack of a posted prize fund!! Maybe if the GPUSBCA would put last years prize fund on the entry form the bowlers would have an Idea on how much money that they could be bowling for. Since the open championship is only once a year the money is long forgotten from the previous year. Maybe more teams would be formed if bowlers had an idea of where the money was last year. Just an Idea.............. That might make a little difference but it also could be in the wrong way as far as a difference. Most of the complaints I've heard in years past was the lack of pay-off kept them from wanting to bowl again..... That's why I suggested on another thread of raising the entry to 20.00 per event and 10.00 for All-Events...a total of 70.00 dollars.... that's only 10.00 more.... But the Assoc. may want to reconsider the ratio of pay-off per entry.... Sure it's nice to spread it around more but all that means, is the top spots are going to get less money......By lessening the ratio, at least those that do cash, it will be worth their wild...JMO... Can anyone remember what the ratio is now? 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 or is it higher than that now?
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 14:04:02 GMT -5
I'll have to check on the ratio, but it is USBC required to pay a certain amount to be certified.
That is why many tournaments do not wish to certify due to pay off restrictions... especially those that offer thousands of dollars for first based on so many entries and then when they don't get it they pay almost that much for 1st and $100 for 2nd....
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 14:07:49 GMT -5
I'll have to check on the ratio, but it is USBC required to pay a certain amount to be certified. That is why many tournaments do not wish to certify due to pay off restrictions... especially those that offer thousands of dollars for first based on so many entries and then when they don't get it they pay almost that much for 1st and $100 for 2nd.... That does sometimes happens, but often the bowlers that do show up for these events will vote to spread out and equalize out the money more, so it's not so lopsided...
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 14:11:48 GMT -5
Prize fund paid back 100% with a 1:6 ratio in each division for Team, doubles and singles.
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 14:19:59 GMT -5
Prize fund paid back 100% with a 1:6 ratio in each division for Team, doubles and singles. "Prize Fund paid back 100%"...... that sounds great but is misleading...lol.. I know all Tourns. use that lingo..... but what is important is the cost of lineage and how much is the Assoc. taking out of the entry fee to cover expenses?.... What is left of coarse is the Prize Fund and obvioulsy 100% of the remaining money should be paid out to the bowlers...lol.... so that has little meaning to me....lol... Now the 1 in 6 ratio sounds reasonable to me.... it's not too low or too high.... That's fine the way it is.....as long as the Assoc. does not try to pay off more spots with the Bowling Ball Raffle money and just use that money to increase the 1 in 6 pay off to those that cash and not try to pay off an extra spot or two in Team event.....JMO.....
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 14:22:02 GMT -5
Prize fund paid back 100% with a 1:6 ratio in each division for Team, doubles and singles. And All-Events to?
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 14:36:43 GMT -5
Prize fund paid back 100% with a 1:6 ratio in each division for Team, doubles and singles. And All-Events to? yes
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Post by screwedntexas on Mar 1, 2007 17:57:32 GMT -5
Any chance of getting the house to contribute 5 cents per bowler per league per house for the year to the prize fund? Doesnt have to be 5 cents it could be any denomination. 5x36=1.80 + .05x16= .80 cents wich would be 2.60 per bowler if they only bowled 1 league fall and summer. Not sure how tight the propieters are with ther money but I would think they would more than make it back from consessions and linage during the tourney. Just a thought. i know not every one would bowl but it would entice them more knoweing the prize fund is more with less out of pocket expense tied to them. Just a thought to pool the resources throughout the assoc.
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 1, 2007 18:03:43 GMT -5
Are you on drugs?.....You must be out of your mind...lol.... Diamond will be lucky to keep the doors open at the end of this fall league. And I doubt that Randy will contribute anymore than the reduced lineage break that they are giving the Assoc.....
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Post by screwedntexas on Mar 1, 2007 18:15:35 GMT -5
Are you on drugs?.....You must be out of your mind...lol.... Diamond will be lucky to keep the doors open at the end of this fall league. And I doubt that Randy will contribute anymore than the reduced lineage break that they are giving the Assoc..... How about sanction fees lol.
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Post by PBAHoFer on Mar 1, 2007 18:22:21 GMT -5
Are you on drugs?.....You must be out of your mind...lol.... Diamond will be lucky to keep the doors open at the end of this fall league. And I doubt that Randy will contribute anymore than the reduced lineage break that they are giving the Assoc..... Sometimes you have to read something twice before you realize to yourself, "NOPE, I did read what I thought I read..." You must really be a genius to post something like that for public consumption. Do you have access to information that others of us are not aware of? Or has the management/ ownership of Diamond confided the status of their business unto you for you to spew over the internet? Or is it you were trying to be funny or sarcastic and you have the ability to be neither...
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Post by PBAHoFer on Mar 1, 2007 18:26:26 GMT -5
Are you on drugs?.....You must be out of your mind...lol.... Diamond will be lucky to keep the doors open at the end of this fall league. And I doubt that Randy will contribute anymore than the reduced lineage break that they are giving the Assoc..... How about sanction fees lol. It "could" be a possibility to add money from the Association into the Prize fund. The annual tournaments are the only ones that USBC allows a local board to add funds to... every other tournament has to be self-supported or have sponsorship other than the Board. It might be a selling point to the membership if they knew a percentage of their dues was added into the tournament prize fund... as it stands right now, I would possibly be willing to do away with the Participation Award and use that money to add tot the tournaments... that's budgeted for approximately $1/ bowler.
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Post by ihookplastic on Mar 1, 2007 22:49:14 GMT -5
what is the dress code for city tourney? shorts allowed? collar shirts required? hats allowed?
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Post by PBAHoFer on Mar 2, 2007 0:38:20 GMT -5
what is the dress code for city tourney? shorts allowed? collar shirts required? hats allowed? Shirts must have collars. Walking shorts are allowed. No Caps.
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