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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 21, 2007 10:54:43 GMT -5
The first weekend Jimbo Evans, James Long Jr. Charlie Falco and myself are going to bowl, with me and Jimbo bowling Doubles and Jr and Falco bowling Doubles.
The second weekend, we're taking our Tuesday night team of Jack Simmons, John Jerkins, Roger Banks and myself, with the defending Div. 1 2006 Champions of me and Jack trying to defend our title....and Roger and John bowling Doubles...
I may bowl a 3rd Team event the second weekend on the second squad with Jeremy Evans but that's not set in stone yet, Jeremy is trying to get us another bowler or two....
Good luck to all that are bowling and supporting our Assoc..... We start March 3rd and 4th., that's less than two weeks from now...
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Post by SoMuchHookUCanFish on Feb 21, 2007 14:21:15 GMT -5
The 1st weekend the 1st squad I am bowling with Me, Jimbo, Rusty Davis, And Jimmy Fields... Me and xbom are bowling the 1st squad of doubles on sunday... One of the squads I am supposed to be bowling with Jimbo, Mills, Jr Long, and myself but I dont remember which one it is I guess I need to find out... But the second weekend I am bowling with Danny McNair, David Merrill, Matt Reiland and myself bowling doubles with Matt...
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 21, 2007 14:31:12 GMT -5
The 1st weekend the 1st squad I am bowling with Me, Jimbo, Rusty Davis, And Jimmy Fields... Me and xbom are bowling the 1st squad of doubles on sunday... One of the squads I am supposed to be bowling with Jimbo, Mills, Jr Long, and myself but I dont remember which one it is I guess I need to find out... But the second weekend I am bowling with Danny McNair, David Merrill, Matt Reiland and myself bowling doubles with Matt... Hey, are you and I still planniing on bowling the 2nd squad the 1nd weekend with two others? |
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Post by WineUdotKing on Feb 21, 2007 15:27:02 GMT -5
The first weekend I will be bowling with "TEAM MANO" (Mano, Roger, Woods, me) and my doubles partner will be Roger. Not sure if I'm bowling any other squads or just working all the other squads...lol. If it's ok with el Presidente, I will be available to sub if needed... ;D
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Post by SoMuchHookUCanFish on Feb 21, 2007 23:49:24 GMT -5
The 1st weekend the 1st squad I am bowling with Me, Jimbo, Rusty Davis, And Jimmy Fields... Me and xbom are bowling the 1st squad of doubles on sunday... One of the squads I am supposed to be bowling with Jimbo, Mills, Jr Long, and myself but I dont remember which one it is I guess I need to find out... But the second weekend I am bowling with Danny McNair, David Merrill, Matt Reiland and myself bowling doubles with Matt... Ok my entries are in and confirmed and my squads are set.... 1st squad sat, me, rusty, jimbo , xbom... me and xbom doubles 1st squad sun........ 2nd squad sat me, jr long, jimbo, mills...... 2nd squad sunday, me and jimbo doubles......... 2nd weekend 1st squad sat me, david merrill, matt reiland, danny mcnair.... 1st squad sunday me and matt reiland doubles |
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Post by Orkocean on Feb 22, 2007 10:34:36 GMT -5
Well if we ever actually get together to gather the money from each other and all it's going to be Jason Valencia, Cory MF'n Green, Elliot Henson and myself, jason/cory and elliot/me.. One squad only for me, never believed in multiple entries in one tournament myself.. Thank god nationals don't allow it. Plus the second weekend i'm having to goto Palace to bowl a tournament there.
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 10:47:29 GMT -5
Just throwing this out for discussion and it's a little off topic but some what related.
With the drastic decline in entries for Houston's City Open Championships and Pasadena's on the decline..... how much longer can or how much emphasis can Hall of Famers put on accomplishments in this Tourn. for Hall of Fame consideration? And if less is put on it from a lack of quality entries, (I personally don't think that Pasadena's Open City Tourn. is there yet but Houston's may be) I wonder what they will look at to distinguish the Hall of Famers from the rest?..... Surely, they can't look at league performances only?..... but I'm just wondering....
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 11:38:12 GMT -5
Just throwing this out for discussion and it's a little off topic but some what related. With the drastic decline in entries for Houston's City Open Championships and Pasadena's on the decline..... how much longer can or how much emphasis can Hall of Famers put on accomplishments in this Tourn. for Hall of Fame consideration? And if less is put on it from a lack of quality entries, (I personally don't think that Pasadena's Open City Tourn. is there yet but Houston's may be) I wonder what they will look at to distinguish the Hall of Famers from the rest?..... Surely, they can't look at league performances only?..... but I'm just wondering.... Pasadena's tournament is loaded with division 1 and scratch entries... it is the average bowler that has dropped their participation. I am perplexed by these same bowlers that go to Nationals and shoot 1400 but do not participate in their local association tournament. I think a true Hall of Famer participates for the love of the game, without an eye on what benefits they may glean from being there... |
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 11:59:40 GMT -5
Just throwing this out for discussion and it's a little off topic but some what related. With the drastic decline in entries for Houston's City Open Championships and Pasadena's on the decline..... how much longer can or how much emphasis can Hall of Famers put on accomplishments in this Tourn. for Hall of Fame consideration? And if less is put on it from a lack of quality entries, (I personally don't think that Pasadena's Open City Tourn. is there yet but Houston's may be) I wonder what they will look at to distinguish the Hall of Famers from the rest?..... Surely, they can't look at league performances only?..... but I'm just wondering.... Pasadena's tournament is loaded with division 1 and scratch entries... it is the average bowler that has dropped their participation. I am perplexed by these same bowlers that go to Nationals and shoot 1400 but do not participate in their local association tournament. I think a true Hall of Famer participates for the love of the game, without an eye on what benefits they may glean from being there... I do agree with you PBA.... I guess the Div. I bowlers are the ones that truly love the game, since they are the ones coming out to bowl it, more so than the other Divisions. And the other divisions out number us at least 25 or 50 to 1..... I bowl Pasadena's City Tourn. for the competition and I care more about the Pasadena Assoc. more so than Houston's. But also bowling it for the prestige and honor it can bring, is also a legitimate reason to bowl it as well...JMO... I think the Assoc. needs to lose the "we should bowl it for the love of the game" or "support our Assoc. reason" mentality. A desire for us to want to bowl it by the Assoc. needs to be there as well to attract all bowlers in all divisions. We shouldn't be made to feel it's something we should do as a charity....IMO... I'm not sure what that answer is. Y'all have added money to this event by selling bowling balls donated by Mano's Pro shop. Maybe offering some free or reduced rate practice to the top 3 in All-Events in each Div. could be something the Assoc. or Centers could do to intice more bowlers for this annual event... just a thought. |
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 12:06:41 GMT -5
Well, I don't think we are trying to sell off our Association activities as a charitable cause... however, it is just about the only visible aspect of Association business, other than presenting awards that the bowlers could be aware of... we are required by USBC Charter qualifications to offer an annual championship tournament for our entire membership, men, women and youth.. and offering similar formats for all tournaments...
So, if we are required to do this for our membership, we would like for the membership to support our efforts... it's not like we are asking them to meet us at each center once a year @ 7:00 AM on a Sunday morning to help us inspect the lanes... we are offering them a chance to compete against other bowlers in the city grouped by their average...
Maybe that's what's wrong with bowling... scoring is so high that nobody wants to compete or lose anymore... they just want to achieve each week in league and get whatever awards they qualify for...
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 12:23:41 GMT -5
I wonder if we need to change the time of year we bowl?
Earlier or later in the season might be an idea worth exploring, except that Houston has tried their's probably every month of the year and it really doesn't make much difference...
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 12:25:16 GMT -5
Well, I don't think we are trying to sell off our Association activities as a charitable cause... however, it is just about the only visible aspect of Association business, other than presenting awards that the bowlers could be aware of... we are required by USBC Charter qualifications to offer an annual championship tournament for our entire membership, men, women and youth.. and offering similar formats for all tournaments... So, if we are required to do this for our membership, we would like for the membership to support our efforts... it's not like we are asking them to meet us at each center once a year @ 7:00 AM on a Sunday morning to help us inspect the lanes... we are offering them a chance to compete against other bowlers in the city grouped by their average... Maybe that's what's wrong with bowling... scoring is so high that nobody wants to compete or lose anymore... they just want to achieve each week in league and get whatever awards they qualify for... You make valid points PBA.... I don't know what the answer is either. Somehow through the years the desire to bowl in general has lessened. And the bowlers we do have left, just aren't bowling the Tourns. as much as they use to. But somehow the Latin Tourns seem to fill up Arm I or Arm II once a month and most of them are lower avg. bowlers.... Could the enticement of more money be attracting them?....I don't know, I'm just asking the question.... They seem to have no problem with putting up approx. 100.00 and some even more for brackets for these Tourns. |
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Post by PBAHoFer on Feb 26, 2007 12:30:17 GMT -5
Well, I think we need to ask those that don't participate to tell us why...
James Cermin walked the lanes on our Tuesday league and he told me he was shocked by the number of out and out NOs he heard in reply... with no interest in even asking what it was about or cost or when it was or anything...
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Post by MrPerfect on Feb 26, 2007 12:46:57 GMT -5
Well, I think we need to ask those that don't participate to tell us why... James Cermin walked the lanes on our Tuesday league and he told me he was shocked by the number of out and out NOs he heard in reply... with no interest in even asking what it was about or cost or when it was or anything... Maybe putting out a 2 or 3 question survey card to all the leagues at Arm I and Diamond would be worth the information you could get back. One possible question or series of questions.... could be... 1. Have you ever bowled Pasadena City Tourn. before in the past? 2. If you have in the past and don't now, please give us your reason for not bowling it again. 3. And what would it take for you to want to bowl it again? Just a thought... |
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Post by XBOM on Feb 26, 2007 13:12:33 GMT -5
I don't think running the open championship like a Latin Tournament is the answer!!!
Armadilla 1 had a Latin Tournament cancel this past weekend due to lack of entries.
I feel it is due to the lack of a posted prize fund!! Maybe if the GPUSBCA would put last years prize fund on the entry form the bowlers would have an Idea on how much money that they could be bowling for. Since the open championship is only once a year the money is long forgotten from the previous year. Maybe more teams would be formed if bowlers had an idea of where the money was last year. Just an Idea..............
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