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Post by johndoe on Mar 4, 2007 10:28:45 GMT -5
For eveyone interested in the sport league this summer would you want to use one of USBC sport patterns or go with the PBA Experience. The PBA Experience is the National tours patterns (Viper, Cheetah, Scorpion, etc.)
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Post by XBOM on Mar 4, 2007 21:28:40 GMT -5
For eveyone interested in the sport league this summer would you want to use one of USBC sport patterns or go with the PBA Experience. The PBA Experience is the National tours patterns (Viper, Cheetah, Scorpion, etc.) Unless Randy is going to purchase a new "WICKLESS" oil machine before the summer the PBA Experience shots are IMPOSSIBLE to lay down with the oil machines they currently use. Personally I would like to bowl a PBA Experience league but only if the lane machine can put out an ACCURATE shot. Not a big fan of putting down something SIMILAR just because they say it's close and it never really is IMO...............bom |
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 5, 2007 8:50:18 GMT -5
For eveyone interested in the sport league this summer would you want to use one of USBC sport patterns or go with the PBA Experience. The PBA Experience is the National tours patterns (Viper, Cheetah, Scorpion, etc.) Unless Randy is going to purchase a new "WICKLESS" oil machine before the summer the PBA Experience shots are IMPOSSIBLE to lay down with the oil machines they currently use. Personally I would like to bowl a PBA Experience league but only if the lane machine can put out an ACCURATE shot. Not a big fan of putting down something SIMILAR just because they say it's close and it never really is IMO...............bom I also would like to do the PBA experience conditions if they are possible.... but if Arm I's lane machine is not capable, then what can we do?.. |
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Post by thedoctor on Mar 5, 2007 11:02:37 GMT -5
I would also like it if they had the PBA experience shots out. It would also help because the regoinals are going back to these patterns starting in April.
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Post by johndoe on Mar 5, 2007 23:09:53 GMT -5
Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional.
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 6, 2007 9:20:20 GMT -5
Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional. No, the PBA Regionals have their own machine and takes it with them to each venue. They do not use the lane machine of each house to put out their shot.... |
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Post by johndoe on Mar 16, 2007 11:05:38 GMT -5
Re: PBA Experience
« Reply #5 on Mar 6, 2007, 9:20am »
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Mar 5, 2007, 11:09pm, johndoe wrote: Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional.
No, the PBA Regionals have their own machine and takes it with them to each venue. They do not use the lane machine of each house to put out their shot....
Jeff your starting to show how long its been since you bowled a regional. When the new owners of the PBA came in they wanted to cut costs so they did away with the lane maint. people and the ball inspectors. Now the PBA uses the houses machines except on the National Tour.
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 16, 2007 11:12:51 GMT -5
Re: PBA Experience « Reply #5 on Mar 6, 2007, 9:20am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 5, 2007, 11:09pm, johndoe wrote: Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional. No, the PBA Regionals have their own machine and takes it with them to each venue. They do not use the lane machine of each house to put out their shot.... Jeff your starting to show how long its been since you bowled a regional. When the new owners of the PBA came in they wanted to cut costs so they did away with the lane maint. people and the ball inspectors. Now the PBA uses the houses machines except on the National Tour. Well then, I stand corrected... It has been a long time since I've bowled Regionals.....actually back then, I think they laid out the shot by hand back in my day...lol.... At least I know they did for sure on the National Tour, I'm not sure if they used a machine or not in Regional competition back then but I was thinking they did the Regionals by hand as well but not sure on that........ They no longer check the balls either for weights and hardness? Wow.... that's surprising.... |
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Post by thedoctor on Mar 16, 2007 12:46:26 GMT -5
Re: PBA Experience « Reply #5 on Mar 6, 2007, 9:20am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 5, 2007, 11:09pm, johndoe wrote: Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional. No, the PBA Regionals have their own machine and takes it with them to each venue. They do not use the lane machine of each house to put out their shot.... Jeff your starting to show how long its been since you bowled a regional. When the new owners of the PBA came in they wanted to cut costs so they did away with the lane maint. people and the ball inspectors. Now the PBA uses the houses machines except on the National Tour. Well then, I stand corrected... It has been a long time since I've bowled Regionals.....actually back then, I think they laid out the shot by hand back in my day...lol.... At least I know they did for sure on the National Tour, I'm not sure if they used a machine or not in Regional competition back then but I was thinking they did the Regionals by hand as well but not sure on that........ They no longer check the balls either for weights and hardness? Wow.... that's surprising.... They only check some of the equipment. For the people that cash they check certian places, for example 1st, 5th, 10th and so on. So if you want to use illegal equipment and hope you are not in those spots you can.  I don't think I would risk it myself. |
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 16, 2007 12:56:16 GMT -5
I won't throw anything illegal period.... not even in league play, much less a PBA event...
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Post by thedoctor on Mar 16, 2007 13:14:50 GMT -5
I won't throw anything illegal period.... not even in league play, much less a PBA event... I'm not saying you do. I don't either, but there are people out there that do. I have a ball that I took to Nationals in Reno and it was fine. Last year when I went to Nationals it was now marginal. I have never done anything to the ball. |
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Post by thedoctor on Mar 16, 2007 14:05:16 GMT -5
Re: PBA Experience « Reply #5 on Mar 6, 2007, 9:20am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 5, 2007, 11:09pm, johndoe wrote: Now when regionals go to the different houses they use the houses machine. Not all houses have wickless machines so you will get the same shot as you would if you bowled a regional. No, the PBA Regionals have their own machine and takes it with them to each venue. They do not use the lane machine of each house to put out their shot.... Jeff your starting to show how long its been since you bowled a regional. When the new owners of the PBA came in they wanted to cut costs so they did away with the lane maint. people and the ball inspectors. Now the PBA uses the houses machines except on the National Tour. I didn't know for sure about what machine the regionals used. I would just show up to bowl or at least try to bowl anyway.  I don't know if all that is going to change now that the regionals are going to be putting out the same pattern as the nationals again. |
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Post by hitman3011 on Mar 16, 2007 16:06:23 GMT -5
Ok everybody..I am here to clear things up. First of all we ARE doing the PBA experience league this summer instead of the standard Sports league. We are going to be putting down the Viper Pattern and the Chemleon Pattern. They have the patterns for pad machines. The pad machine at Armadilla I is good to lay these shots down. I have talked to Steve Wonderlich @ USBC and we have been registered for this league. I have confirmed with Jimbo and we have the needed 7-3-5-5-5-5-3-7 pads required already in the machine.
SO..the first 6 weeks will be the Viper, then the next 6 weeks the Chamleon. They are the slicker patterns and offer the gutter and the middle to play with.
Will be starting on June 5th, 2007 with the meeting on the pre-ceding Tuesday May 29th @ 7:00 PM.
It wil again be a trio league. Right now standard format of 12 weeks and winner is declared after that. Not split or anything at this time. We can vote on formats and change if the people want too.
As well, Armadilla I is resurfacing memorial weekend, so we will have clean lane beds to have these 2 patterns put down.
Dana will be adding some money depending on how many teams we get.
So, there...let the comments begin and any suggestions as well.
James Hickey
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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 16, 2007 16:10:43 GMT -5
Ok everybody..I am here to clear things up. First of all we ARE doing the PBA experience league this summer instead of the standard Sports league. We are going to be putting down the Viper Pattern and the Chemleon Pattern. They have the patterns for pad machines. The pad machine at Armadilla I is good to lay these shots down. I have talked to Steve Wonderlich @ USBC and we have been registered for this league. I have confirmed with Jimbo and we have the needed 7-3-5-5-5-5-3-7 pads required already in the machine. SO..the first 6 weeks will be the Viper, then the next 6 weeks the Chamleon. They are the slicker patterns and offer the gutter and the middle to play with. Will be starting on June 5th, 2007 with the meeting on the pre-ceding Tuesday May 29th @ 7:00 PM. It wil again be a trio league. Right now standard format of 12 weeks and winner is declared after that. Not split or anything at this time. We can vote on formats and change if the people want too. As well, Armadilla I is resurfacing memorial weekend, so we will have clean lane beds to have these 2 patterns put down. Dana will be adding some money depending on how many teams we get. So, there...let the comments begin and any suggestions as well. James Hickey Are the pads set in the machine now in the correct order for these two patterns? |
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Post by hitman3011 on Mar 16, 2007 16:15:06 GMT -5
yep..the pads are ready to go..just need to program and I already have the programs to do it.
...IF You want to read about the patterns..go to BOWL.COM and click on the PBA EXPERIENCE league and it will have the low down on the patterns. How they play, who bowls well on them on tour and so on. Good information. I will have hand outs at the meeting on them as well.
James
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I don't think I would risk it myself.